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Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

Hi there

I want to propose to disable by default KRandR from kde-workspace release
for 4.11.

While I'm considered the maintainer of KRandR truth is I have never been
it, I just made it "work" around 4.7 times but it is still full of bugs and
annoyances.
Since we have KScreen (which tomorrow I will propose for Extragear) which
almost all distributions are shipping I see no point on keeping KRandR
around, specially in 4.11 that will be the last release of 4.11.

KScreen is rock solid, it has two maintainers taking care of it, it is way
more advanced and complete than KRandR and it is trusted enough so
distributions like RHEL are going to ship it.

Ideally I would like to remove the source code completely, but I guess we
are too late into 4.11 to do such thing.

Cheers !

Comments

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Albert Astals Cid at 07/04/2013 - 15:39

El Dijous, 4 de juliol de 2013, a les 01:06:27, Àlex Fiestas va escriure:
Hi

I agree we are too late.

If KScreen is so much better, i'd make sure packagers know about it and they
can install KScreen and not KRandR if they want, even provide
replaces/conflicts rules.

But since we are 5 days away from "Release Candidate" day, don't think
removing (or disabling) something from kde-workspace is a good idea.

Cheers,
Albert

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Alex Fiestas at 07/08/2013 - 09:10

On Thursday 04 July 2013 21:39:03 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
If you have, and you still haven't changed your mind, I will do the following
if everybody is ok with it:

-Add a README in KRandR folder warning that the software is known to be not
working well, and that they should use kscreen
-Add a warning in the release notes, somewhere.
-Send an email to kde-packagers
-Anything more?

Cheers and thanks for the feedback !

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Albert Astals Cid at 07/08/2013 - 13:49

El Dilluns, 8 de juliol de 2013, a les 15:10:06, Àlex Fiestas va escriure:
I have, I've also taken into account that if you remove it we will be shipping
a workspace with no software at all to configure your screens for a long time.

Ok, there's a different software that works better, but this one seems to work
for some people (or at least won't kill their puppies) and the other one is
distributed in an "extra" tarball.

"known for not working well" seems like a bit of FUD, if there's known errata,
we should explain the cases in which it doesn't work. Because I'm using it and
works for my use case so "known for not working well" is too broad and fear-
creating.

That works for me

Cheers,
Albert

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Alex Fiestas at 07/08/2013 - 14:18

On Monday 08 July 2013 19:49:29 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
Thanks for the feedback !

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Sebastian =?utf... at 07/04/2013 - 07:56

On Thursday, July 04, 2013 01:06:27 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
I think this should go into SC, not just extragear. Very much so since it
would replace krandr there.

The functionality of plugging in an extra screen or unplugging it is very much
needed for most systems, that's not extragear.

+1 for replacing krandr with kscreen.

Cheers,

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Martin =?ISO-88... at 07/04/2013 - 01:39

On Thursday 04 July 2013 01:06:27 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
Cheers
Martin

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Ben Cooksley at 07/03/2013 - 23:45

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Àlex Fiestas < ... at kde dot org> wrote:
Big +1 from my side.
The problems with KRandR often cause users problems, especially with
respect to the saving of settings - which KScreen handles much better.

Regards,
Ben Cooksley

Re: Disable by default KRandR in 4.11

By Aaron J. Seigo at 07/03/2013 - 19:16

On Thursday, July 4, 2013 01:06:27 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
The only thing missing (though I'm a few weeks out of date in my builds of
this) is a rock solid config UI.. the version I have doesn't make cloning
screens easy. ... but there is time to make that happen.

Otherwise, MASSIVE +1.