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Keyboard shortcuts get wild.

Hi,

let me first point you to this image (kde 4.6.0) :
<a href="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5398/rightmousebuttondesktop.png" title="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5398/rightmousebuttondesktop.png">http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5398/rightmousebuttondesktop.png</a>

Oke, first one shortcut in that image.
I consider myself a experienced computer user in both windows and linux but
today i learned new shortcut things.
ALT + d, a (which is pressing ALT and type 'd' and 'a' while ALT is
pressed.. i didn't knew any combinations like that before)

Now lets consider what i wanted to do. What i wanted is opening the dialog
to add widgets to my desktop.. that's it. Now that shortcut isn't working
and i reported that here : <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265527" title="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265527">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265527</a> but i
wonder what the rationale is behind ALT + d, a...

ALT, i can understand.. but D and A..? What does D mean? What does A mean?
The thing i want to do is "open the dialog to add widgets" and to describe
it simple i would say "add widgets" but i can't find any of that back in the
shortcut.. I would have expected something like this "ALT + a, w" for
"adding widgets" and "ALT + a, a" for adding activities...

One that is obvious is the desktop settings is ALT + d, ALT + s even though
ALT + d, s is also working so i suspect there is a bug in there. However,
it's not consistent with other setting shortcuts. You can see the desktop
settings as "properties" and in dolphin they use "ALT + Return" for that.
(what i find odd is that ALT + Return opens dolphin when not opened..)

so perhaps it's time to take a real good look at all our shortcuts and
define some generic application shortcuts that are the same in every
application that makes KDE SC.

Just a little brainstorm.
What do you think?

Regards,
Mark

Comments

Re: Keyboard shortcuts get wild.

By Michael Jansen at 02/05/2011 - 15:05

On Saturday 05 February 2011 17:51:16 Mark wrote:
No. That means press alt+d release everything press only a.

Mike

Re: Keyboard shortcuts get wild.

By Mark at 02/05/2011 - 17:07

ohh.. on irc they said it's what i said..
But that alone already clearly shows how awkward the key shortcut is when
it's not even "common knowledge" to the average computer user.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Michael Jansen <info@michael-jansen.biz>wrote:

Re: Keyboard shortcuts get wild.

By Anders Lund at 02/05/2011 - 13:39

On Lørdag den 5. februar 2011, Mark wrote:
I find it confusing that Plasma uses two formats, some are "ALT + D, ALT + A"
(Activities), some are "ALT + D, A" (add widgets). The latter does not work
btw, on my system it shows the activities pane.

"ALT + D, L" (lock widgets) works, but i find that spooky - if I press ALT +
D, how long will it take berore reset? It's like a hidden menu :o

Plasmoids that can be configured all claims "ALT + D, S", but of course it
does not work for all of them - in fact it works in some cases for the latest
clicked plasmoid /on the desktop/ -- those on the panel can not be reached by
keyboard in my experience. Since there is no other concept of a "current"
plasmoid, this is rather spooky too, I have to click an applet to know that
its config dialog will popup on "ALT + D, S" - if it is a ??? (yaWP or fading
calender works, but eventlist does not).

All in all, it is safer to be a clicker, at least when it comes to configuring
plasmoids...

Hm, looks like there is room for improvement :-)

Re: Keyboard shortcuts get wild.

By todd rme at 02/05/2011 - 13:01

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Mark < ... at gmail dot com> wrote:
Isn't that what "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts" is for? Applications
can override these, of course, but they probably shouldn't by default.

-Todd

Re: Keyboard shortcuts get wild.

By Alexander Neundorf at 02/05/2011 - 12:56

On Saturday 05 February 2011, Mark wrote:
Looks like "ALT+d" is for stuff which is on the "desktop".

Alex