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Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advanced text editor) in KDE 4.6

HI,

Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advanced text
editor) in KDE 4.6 !!!

Best regards,

Vladimir Kokovic, Dragan Ciric, DP seniors, Belgrade, Serbia

Comments

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By David Faure at 04/15/2011 - 18:28

On Friday 15 April 2011, Vladimir Koković wrote:
Wrong list, and wrong request.

We didn't remove such a feature. If it doesn't appear anymore, then it must
mean you don't have katepart installed.

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By Dominik Haumann at 04/16/2011 - 06:00

On Saturday, 16. April 2011, David Faure wrote:
In KDE3 konqueror was never able to edit text with the embedded text view.
By accident, this was possible in KDE 4.5. In KDE 4.6 we are back to read-
only-mode in the embedded text part.

Changing this is rather simple, but the question is whether you want
Konqueror to be the app to also "modify everything". That's why it's on kcd.

See also: <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259338" title="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259338">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259338</a>

Greetings
Dominik

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By David Faure at 04/19/2011 - 07:36

On Saturday 16 April 2011, Dominik Haumann wrote:
Ah, now I understand what this is about, I didn't know katepart enabled
editing by mistake in 4.5.

Well, the issue is, Konqueror isn't meant to be an editor.
There's no save button, no warning about unsaved changes when closing the
window, or when going back in history -- and generally not much room for a ton
of editing-related menus/toolbars in addition to all the existing
menus/toolbars.

On one hand I can see the benefit of "editing right there, where we can see the
text", but if you think about it, in addition to the above list of problems,
does that mean image manipulation tools should show when viewing an image? And
HTML editing when viewing an HTML page?
I can see how some users are saying "yes", but a large majority of users has
been criticizing konqueror for the amount of menus and toolbars, so adding
editing functionality will just make it look like an even bigger beast that
only 1% of the existing konqueror users will feel comfortable using.

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By Josef Spillner at 04/19/2011 - 08:02

An interesting question would be if the [assumed] 99% remaining users wouldn't
be better off using Dolphin and Rekonq as rather simple task-oriented
applications, whereas Konqueror and its parts would gain strength in more
properly integrating with KIO, thus e.g. providing a new experience in editing
web pages similar to wikis but independent of the media types.

It could easily be marketed as "web 2.0 done right" - why use Picasa when you
can just edit your photos in the cloud with the embedded Digikam part?

Well, I guess that's because I belong to the 1% of users who continue to be
attracted to software projects through their long-term vision rather than
their current utility ;)

Josef

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By Alexander Neundorf at 04/19/2011 - 14:30

On Tuesday 19 April 2011, Josef Spillner wrote:

I had a similar idea, but wasn't sure whether it's a good idea.
At least I'm not the only one thinking this...

Alex

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By =?utf-8?B?VmxhZ... at 04/18/2011 - 02:17

Hi,

We use ONLY Konqueror as File Manager !

If it is simple to enable in line editing why don't make it configurable ?

We need app to view and "modify everything" !

Best regards,
Vladimir Kokovic, Dragan Ciric, DP seniors, Belgrade, Serbia

Re: Please, return removed Konqueror feature bug (embedded advan

By Ingo =?iso-8859... at 04/16/2011 - 14:34

On Saturday 16 April 2011, Dominik Haumann wrote:
I always found it extremely irritating that I couldn't edit a text file
opened in the embedded text view. For me this makes the embedded text
view mostly useless.

Regards,
Ingo