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Desktop for newbies

Folks

I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I
control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a
refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as
to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him
and set up for him as his default.

My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions

And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.

Suggestions?

David

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Re: Desktop for newbies

By Johnny Hughes at 10/10/2016 - 08:56

On 09/30/2016 10:19 AM, david wrote:
Well, I would set up standard (not classic) GNOME3 and a normal user and
give him root privs via sudo. And tell him the root password as well.

If you turn on the extensions for Applications (top menu) and show
windows at the bottom, GNOME 3 is close enough from a desktop standpoint
that Windows users can figure everything out as a user.

If you tell him the root password and also setup sudo access .. he can
control everything like users, etc. via the GUI (will ask for the root
password) .. and as he becomes more comfortable with the CLI, he can use
sudo to start things as root from there.

I initially used the Classic skin for gnome3 (and even Mate and/or
Cinnamon for a gnome2 desktop) .. but for me, eventually, the 'Windows
Button' with app search by default in the standard GNOME3 desktop was
the easiest platform for me to use.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Leroy Tennison at 09/30/2016 - 10:47

For a newbie KDE is pretty Windows-like. However, once you're used to it, the earlier comments about Gnome3 versus Mate also apply to KDE versus Trinity. Both of the major Desktops seem to be too "oh let's see what we can do with this radically new idea" oriented. Might want to consider Trinity.

Folks

I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I
control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a
refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as
to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him
and set up for him as his default.

My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions

And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.

Suggestions?

David

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Scot P. Floess at 09/30/2016 - 10:33

KDE :)

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Re: Desktop for newbies

By Gary Stainburn at 09/30/2016 - 10:47

My vote is still for KDE

It's got a similar feel to Windows before it went pear shaped at Win8.
It's fairly easy to use.
He should be able to do most stuff as a user.

On Friday 30 September 2016 16:33:04 Scot P. Floess wrote:

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Valeri Galtsev at 09/30/2016 - 11:14

On Fri, September 30, 2016 10:47 am, Gary Stainburn wrote:
I would agree, unhappy Windows 10 user will be pleased by KDE, or latest
GNOME that is installed by default on CentOS 7. I also would add mate, so
if user still have mental ability to categorize things, he/she may be
happier to stick with menus arranged by category, instead of being forced
to stop using brain and use search instead as latest KDE and Gnome make
you (someone said they only make happy the "iPad generation" of people ;-)

Just my $0.02

Valeri

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Re: Desktop for newbies

By Sorin Srbu at 10/03/2016 - 01:01

IMHO whatever DE (eg Gnome2, Mate or KDE) should work except for the
thinnest ones (eg xfce), which are are likely to be scary for a former
Windows refugee.

The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply the
Redmond theme!

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Gary Stainburn at 10/04/2016 - 04:24

On Monday 03 October 2016 07:01:49 Sorin Srbu wrote:
I didn't know there was such a thing. I've gone into

System Settings -> Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme

but I can't find it anywhere. What am I doing wrong?

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Sorin Srbu at 10/04/2016 - 05:13

Come to think of it, I last used it on CentOS 5 (IIRC) when I transferred my
mother to linux from Windows some time ago.

It might not be available as a default theme anymore. 8-/

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Gary Stainburn at 10/04/2016 - 05:33

On Tuesday 04 October 2016 11:13:56 Sorin Srbu wrote:
That's a shame, because I was hoping to use it for the same thing

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Sorin Srbu at 10/04/2016 - 05:40

Would maybe this help?

<a href="https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-avail" title="https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-avail">https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-a...</a>
able/

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Gary Stainburn at 10/04/2016 - 05:49

On Tuesday 04 October 2016 11:40:32 Sorin Srbu wrote:
I'll have a look, but one of the reasons I'm hoping to get some people onto
Linux is because they hate Windows 8 / Windows 10

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Sorin Srbu at 10/04/2016 - 05:59

In that case I don't quite understand why you want a Windows-lookalike in
linux.

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Gary Stainburn at 10/04/2016 - 06:06

On Tuesday 04 October 2016 11:59:24 Sorin Srbu wrote:
I have a lot of friends / users who use Windows 7 and are happy enough. This
means I have to support Windows 7.

I get annoyed when I have to use Win8 or Win10 because of the *improvements*
that MS have made to the UI.

A large number of my friends / users are in the same boat, and they're used to
MS Windows 100% of the time, whereas I only use it when I have to.

I was hoping for a KDE theme that would be as close as possible to Win7 in
look and feel.

BTW, I tried the CNet link but it didn't work. Thanks tho.

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Sorin Srbu at 10/04/2016 - 06:24

Gotcha', thanks.

Probably got truncated. Try this instead; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/zpozp49" title="http://tinyurl.com/zpozp49">http://tinyurl.com/zpozp49</a>.

Re: Desktop for newbies

By Sorin Srbu at 10/04/2016 - 06:30

Well, well. 8-)

https://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Win2-7(Pixmap)?content=118227

Please be aware of truncated URLs!