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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

Irrelevant, unhelpful and quite rude. Aside from that, if you tell me what you perceive to be the problem, perhaps stand a chance to fix the issue. If it is genuinely a client issue, then please give me something to send back to Yahoo. Assuming it wasn't just a very cheap and childish shot, of course.

Obviously it wasn't so broken that you weren't able to read or reply my mail. I can't imagine what terrible hardship it has caused you.

Okay, Thanks for clarifying that because it is the releases that appear be the problem at hand and the direct connections don't automatically leap out at me.

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Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Kai Schaetzl at 04/06/2011 - 12:15

Your mail is broken because it doesn't contain correct threading headers
(In-Reply-To). Because of that it just threads "everywhere" in this
thread. For instance, for me, your message was threaded to Russell Jones'
because it came in after his mail. Use a decent email program and the
problem is gone.

Kai

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Ian Murray at 04/06/2011 - 16:16

Thanks. Appears to be a problem with the new Yahoo webmail beta. Reverting it
back to the previous version *appears* to solve the problem. At least it did in
test (and hopefully it will now).

Having looked at the RFC's, "in-reply-to" doesn't appear to be mandatory...
strictly speaking... although it is described as "SHOULD" be used.

Anyway, thanks again. I will feed it back to Yahoo.

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Lamar Owen at 04/06/2011 - 10:41

On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:22:33 AM Karanbir Singh wrote:
FWIW, on kmail on Fedora 14, at least, his messages show up properly threaded, even though the In-Reply-To and References headers are missing from his message. Don't know why Thunderbird doesn't show them threaded.

Of course, kmail has its own problems, particularly with putting in to many References headers on occasion, but that's a different issue.....

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Karanbir Singh at 04/06/2011 - 10:22

On 04/06/2011 03:19 PM, Ian Murray wrote:
mailing lists are setup to retain thread sanity, its expected people use
mailclients that can honour that. If yours cant and you prefer not to
change it- perhaps consider using the centos.org forums instead ?

- KB

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Ian Murray at 04/06/2011 - 16:30

As previously stated, "in-reply-to" isn't a mandatory field as far as I can
tell, so it is a stretch to call it "broken". However, now that someone actually
stopped the time-wasting and told me the issue precisely, I was able to rectify
it rather than have me second-guess it.

I still stand-by what I said. Given your attitude, I am not surprised at the
state of the CentOS project.

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Karanbir Singh at 04/06/2011 - 18:21

On 04/06/2011 09:30 PM, Ian Murray wrote:
in-reply-to isn't the only way to retain thread sanity

good for you. But you might be in for a surprise, since quite a lot of
effort here goes into pointing people in the right directions and
expecting them to be able to join dots and actually learn about things
rather than spoon feeding every step of the way.

Anyway, you now know a bit about threading and how lists work, so a
small win in its own right.

- KB

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Ian Murray at 04/06/2011 - 19:01

Do you honestly not have anything better to do? For your info before I posted,
Markmail seemed to sort it out okay as did the OP who posted.

If you think "Mail client is broken" is anything like a reasonable description
of an issue you are quite mistaken... it is one up from "saying computer says
no".

I'll help you out (and bring it back on topic), likewise: your Linux
distribution rebuild project is broken. Was that any help to you? Am I pointing
you in the right way? Please join the dots to figure where it is going wrong...?
Oh, you don't even see the problem, do you? Just ignore it in that case. Perhaps
it will go away by itself. Well, it doesn't exist, so it can't go away because
it was never here.... etc.....

And you know what is wrong with your project. So we are all winners tonight,
aren't we?

Truth be told, I doubt you learned a thing tonight. The CentOS build process is
not the only thing that is "closed" around here.

p.s. When you take your car to the garage do you just tell them that it is
"broken" and they can figure it from there. You'd be doing them a favour...
maybe they might learn something. Personally, I just tell them as much as I can
because I am keen to get it sorted and move on.

Just my opinion, ofcourse.

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Timothy Murphy at 04/06/2011 - 19:41

If these remarks were directed at Karanbir Singh,
I'm sure the vast majority of CentOS users will dissociate themselves
completely from them, as I do.
I'm sure KS has much better things to do at the moment
than configure your mail reader.

Personally, I'm very grateful to the CentOS team for all their work.

I'm perhaps in a minority in not caring when CentOS-6 (or 5.6) come out,
as CentOS-5.5 works perfectly for me and I don't actually see anything
in CentOS-6 which would be very useful to me.
The only thing I would say is that I hope KS and team are not pressured
into bringing out CentOS-6 before it is absolutely ready;
in this context it is much better to be good than to be early.

Re: Centos 6 Update?

By Dag Wieers at 04/06/2011 - 19:09

Superiority is about keeping people ignorant and point out the ignorance
(preferably in public).

We are all waiting for the first sucker to tell you to stop this thread
because if you keep Karanbir busy it will make the CentOS 6.0 release late !