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Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11

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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2010-03-11

== Roll Call ==
* Present: Matt Domsch, Paul Frields, John Poelstra, Mike McGrath, Colin Walters, Josh Boyer, Dennis Gilmore, Christopher Aillon, Chris Tyler, Tom "spot" Callaway
* Assigned meeting secretary: Matt Domsch

CLA problems (was: Re: Install fedora-easy-karma by default?)

Imho it is to complex, which scares potential contributor away.
Especially if only a comment and a karma value are required, the CLA is
way to complex to require it.

Regards
Till

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F12: Icon position in drawers in a gnome panel changes from top after logout and relogin to buttom

Hi,

having the following problem: Putting a drawer into a gnome-panel, and
then adding a custom application launcher to the drawer (icon position
in the drawer: top). After logging out an re-logging in, the icon
position is now: bottom of drawer.

[Remark: the app is the NX client from nomachine.com, copied from the
Applications menu to the drawer].

Anybody made similar experiences?

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes

Example of karma not being functional [Was:POSTUN scriptlet failure in rpm package cyrus-sasl]

This case is a nice example demonstrating several defects in "applying
karma votes for QA":

1. The update package was sitting in "updates-testing" since 2010-02-22.

2. It did receive +3 karma points before being pushed to "updates"
c.f. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.fc12
=> There are people who claim to have tested it and not having noticed
anything unusual.

3. During today's update I was immediately "greeted" by the same error
message Mat cites above and BZ'ed it.
c.f. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572399

4.

F13 alpha rt2860 wireless problem

Trying out F13 alpha on my eeepc 901.

In previous versions, we had to go to a 3rd-party repo to get drivers for
the RTA2860STA wireless chipset. But F13 seems to have at least some
support built in, i.e., network manager detects the wireless hotspots
nearby and offers them up for connection.

however it won't actually connect.

Help needed on wireless

1) I have a wireless enabled broadband DSL modem which has four Ethernet
ports.
2) I have Wi-Fi enabled laptop running on F!2 and I want to connect the
modem through wireless connection to access the internet.
3) The modem has SSID, network authentication is WPA-PSK. I am able to see
the available wireless networks from my laptop but I am not able to connect
one.

Please advise me.

thank you.

Kishore

Keboard defaults changing at logon time with Gnome and F12

By default my system has F12 in english, but the only keyboard defined is Canada.  After every boot or logon, I find that the user's keyboard has reverted to USA.  I have to delete the USA entry in order to recover the functionality of the Canada Keyboard..  I write in French and Spanish, and accented characters are essential, that is why I use Canada French.

It is with the logon screen, where defaults are shown in the bottom of the screen.

By the way xorg.conf shows the correct default ca(fr)

Regards
 Leslie
Mr. Leslie Satenstein

 

POSTUN scriptlet failure in rpm package cyrus-sasl

Saw this in today's updates:

Cleanup : cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-4.fc12.i686
195/254
groupdel: group 'saslauth' does not exist
Non-fatal POSTUN scriptlet failure in rpm package cyrus-sasl
warning: %postun(cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-4.fc12.i686) scriptlet failed, exit status 6

This looks benign, but I suppose it could check if the group exists
before attempting to delete it.

dmidecode not working?

Let me start by saying this may or may not be a Fedora issue.

I recently purchased two Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P motherboards and am
running F12 on them. The marketing for these boards say they support
SMBIOS 2.4 and DMI, yet dmidecode says:

[root at phoenix ~]# dmidecode
# dmidecode 2.10
# No SMBIOS nor DMI entry point found, sorry.

What could be wrong? I've never seen a system that fails on this command
before, and now I have two of them? They also have a problem with the
on-board LAN and probably Firewire. Neither onboard NIC is working, the
first shows a MAC of ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.

aoe - with freenas, openfiler

Does anybody has a link to a distro, that supports ata over ethernet,
and it's like: freenas, openfiler

sorry for the "interesting question" :D:S

thank you!

Java package maintainers, please, add missing requires to your packages.

Hello All!

Recently I (re)started to package some big java application, and as
one of side effect of this work, I take a closer look on current state
of java packages in Fedora and I was disappointed with what I saw
here.

Quick summary - many java packages does not obey Fedora Packaging
Guidelines in case of owning a directories, already owned by other
packages.

As a result - some packages owns %{_javadir}, some - %{_javadocdir},
some - own directories with maven-related stuff.

Nvidia problem after kernel 2.6.32.9-70.fc12 update

This morning, after kernel + nvidia driver update I get this error:

then I boot with previous kernel.

This is my rpm situations:

now I have "yum remove kernel-devel-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64
kernel-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64"

But if I run yum update:

The nvidia module is missing.

Besides, yum "There are unfinished transactions remaining.

Potential pkgdb-0.5.x release on staging

After a round of bug reports and bug fixing I have a new pkgdb up in the
staging environment for testing. I do not know of any problems with this
version at the moment so I'd appreciate people who use the pkgdb to change
acls frequently or query it for data give it a try and see that everything
is working for them. If there's no reports of problems I'll be pushing this
to production soon. If I'm available for part of the weekend I'll push it
Friday.

Wireless stopped working- F12

I installed F12 around the time it was released and it picked up my wireless
card and worked like a charm.....Suddenly last week everything stopped
working and I receive what appears to be a driver error when wlan0 tries to
load.

Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
invalid argument "if902c7885".

lspci reveals

Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN
Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card [1028:0005]

A quick google

F-13 Beta Blocker Meeting 2010-03-12 @ 16:00 UTC (11 AM EST)

It's that time again: blocker bug review meeting time! Tomorrow is the
first blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 13 Beta.

Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Beta release.

Fwd: URL error on Fedora 13 Alpha BFO

Hello,

I was trying to install Fedora 13 Alpha using BFO utility and I got an error
during the download of the install.img. I saw that the url for the
install.img is wrong:

URL that use BFO utility:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub

URL valid:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/

it works with the redhat url.

Do you know this error?

Thank you
salu2...
masch...

Webcam Test Day tomorrow (Thursday 2010-03-11)

This Thursday, 2010-03-11, is webcam Test Day [1]. It's really pretty
simple: if you have a webcam we want you to boot up a recent Fedora and
check if it works. There's detailed instructions on the Wiki page but
that's really what it boils down to - fire up your webcam, run Cheese or
something like it, and make sure it all works well. If not, let us know
about it! As always, the Test Day runs all Thursday in #fedora-test-day
on Freenode IRC.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-03-11_webcams

Problem with apache virtual host in new fedora 12 installation

Hi,

I have problem with my new apache virtual host setup in my fedora 12 server.
I can't access it in the browser and I am receiving error 403. Please see
the error below in my error_log.

"/home/user/public_html" directory to user "user" and group "user". I also
change the file permission to 777 but I'm still having error 403. Please see
my virtual host config below:

*NameVirtualHost *:80*

Please help me. I don't know what seems to be the problem.

Regards,

Richard R. Cahilig

Yunm /theora problem -

Today's yum update choked on ffmpeg2theora.

Transaction Check Error:
file /usr/share/man/man1/ffmpeg2theora.1.gz from install of
ffmpeg2theora-0.26-1.fc12.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
ffmpeg2theora-0.25-1.fc12.i686

Error Summary
I'm not sure why I have the i386 version and not the x86_64 version
but perhaps it came with one of the video applications I downloaded?

I guess I can try removing the i386 stuff and see if it will then
permit me to install the x86_64 version and then see if some other
app. dies.

Hard drive spec change

Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it? And If we bought a new
hd, via sata in my case within past year or newer computer in past year,
are we using the new 4kb sectors now or just able to handle it?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361156,00.asp

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IBM Statement on TCG DRTM Support

IBM supports the TCG DRTM standard efforts. After the approval of the TCG
DRTM standard, IBM is planning to develop and provide DRTM UEFI support in
its System X product line.

After installation, booting FC-12.

Hello

List,

The installation of FC-12 went very smoothly. I removed all external devices and unnecessary seated cards, to do the install. Then, the reboot screen appeared. I clicked on the reboot button, and the computer rebooted. During the reboot procedure, the yaboot (the apple macintosh boot loader) screen appeared. The following options were presented:

l linux
x macosx
o openfirmware
n network
c cdrom

I entered an l, at the boot prompt, and the booting procedure continued to boot linux.

During the boot process, an Oops! machine check 7... occurred.

After installation, booting FC-12.

Hello

List,

The installation of FC-12 went very smoothly. I removed all external devices and unnecessary seated cards, to do the install. Then, the reboot screen appeared. I clicked on the reboot button, and the computer rebooted. During the reboot procedure, the yaboot (the apple macintosh boot loader) screen appeared. The following options were presented:

l linux
x macosx
o openfirmware
n network
c cdrom

I entered an l, at the boot prompt, and the booting procedure continued to boot linux.

During the boot process, an Oops! machine check 7... occurred.

icons vs. messages in gpk-update-viewer??

The last couple batches of updates have shown lots of apps with
the little round gray power button icon, like the one you click to shut
down, reboot, etc. And the initial box interprets it as meaning restart
(which seems generally to be spreading as a substitute for reboot).

But the message in the box after the update finishes says to log
out and back in.

Has there been a great change? Or has the message somehow gotten
bonkered?

kernel-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64 needs 219KB on the /boot filesystem

Dear All,

When i run 'yum update', I get the following error:

Transaction Check Error:
installing package kernel-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64 needs 219KB on the
/boot filesystem

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

gmpc sound not working

I'm running Fedora 10 with the gnome desktop. I installed the mpd
(music player daemon) on my file server (where all the music lives) and
gmpc on my laptop. These things come from rpmfusion.
Every sound application on my machine is able to make noise except
gmpc. It doesn't have a config panel so there doesn't seem to be any
way to choose between sound systems or any such nonsense. It displays
all the files on the server so communication is established.

Vanilla kernels and nouveau

Hi y'all,

I have the habit of compiling kernels from Linus' tree once in a while.
The list of installed kernels on my AA64 Fedora 12 machine looks like so :

[arares at localhost ~]$ ls /boot | grep vmlinuz
vmlinuz
vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64
vmlinuz-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64
vmlinuz-2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64
vmlinuz-2.6.33-00001-gbaac35c
vmlinuz-2.6.33-05070-g64ba992
vmlinuz-2.6.33-05679-g4da0b66
vmlinuz-2.6.34-rc1-00005-g522dba7

Now, the first vanilla kernel (aka the oldest) works OK with nouveau,
and the Fedora-supplied ones do the same.

gdbm soname change in Rawhide, package rebuild needed

A newer version of gdbm (1.8.0->1.8.3) has been pushed into rawhide
(devel) branch. This version changes libgdbm soname, so all packages
using gdbm _must be rebuilt_.

The soname change is needed as the new version moves dbm and ndbm
routines to separate library gdbm_compat.

The new version fixes a memory leak.

KVM and screen savers

On my F12 laptop I experience the following issue:

If my cursor is in a KVM instance (RHEL 5) and I leave the machine for a while the Fedora screen saver with lock does not kick in. That is until I press CTRL-ALT to take focus from the RHEL instance back to my Fedora 12. Then the screen saver kicks in.

Apart form being a little annoying it is also probably a security issue. If I want the screen saver to kick-in after 5 or 10 min of idle time and require a password it is probably NOT a good idea for the KVM focus to somehow override this setting.

Regards,
William

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F13 -EGPUDRIVERNOWORKIE

Hi,

I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be b0rken
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243

Any chance to get graphical installer with vesa driver?

Regards,
Michal

Strange things during upgrades

I installed F12 on a desktop of a friend of mine.
She is experiencing freezing in particular during upgrades

Today during upgrades she got:

[root at Lella Lella]# yum-complete-transaction
Plugin caricati:presto, refresh-packagekit
No unfinished transactions left.
[root at Lella Lella]# yum clean all
Plugin caricati:presto, refresh-packagekit
Pulizia completa
0 delta-package files removed, by presto
[root at Lella Lella]# yum update
Plugin caricati:presto, refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00
adobe-linux-i386/primary

Proftpd config problem in Fedora 11 ( 64Bit )

Dear All,

Mine is Fedora 11 ( without enable firewall and selinux )....
After install proftp as ftp server, there is error message during upload
file/data to the ftp server as the following :

[root@]# rpm -qa | grep "proftpd"
proftpd-1.3.2d-1.fc11.x86_64

for /etc/proftpd.conf :
ServerType inetd
DefaultServer on
UseReverseDNS off
IdentLookups off
Port 21
Umask 022
MaxInstances 30
MaxClients 50
User nobody
Group nobody
TimeoutIdle 1800
TimeoutStalled 1800
TimeoutNoTransfer 1800
TimeoutLogin 1800
TimesGMT off

AllowRetrieveRestart on
AllowOverwrite on
AllowStoreRestart on

ServerIdent On "FTP

Install fedora-easy-karma by default? (was: Re: Expect more positive bodhi karma / check karma automatism)

I do not mind, if it is installed by default, but I am not sure,
whether this is a good idea. Users will still need a FAS account,
install packages from updates-testing and know that it exist to use it.

Regards
Till

pvcreate fails on large RAID1 both on adding new drive as well as new installation Fedora 12

Fedora 12 with kernel 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64
Processor is an AMD Opteron Quad Core.

Mail Server

Hi All, im running Fedora 10 and i want to configure the sending of email
both internal and external. can anybody email me the instructions on how to
do it at
<...> at gmail dot com as soon as possible.

Release Notes Wiki Freeze

Next week is the wiki freeze for Fedora 13 Release Notes.

If you have something important that needs to be in the release notes,
update the appropriate wiki beat.

Go to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats

and select the appropriate beat.

Adventurous yet Safety-Minded

Instead of worrying about the occasional brokenness caused by an update to a stable release, how about focusing on a mechanism to easily recover from it? As long as the update hasn't corrupted any critical files, my non-optimal solution is to head over to koji, grab the last version of the broken package set that worked for me, and install. If yum could be persuaded to stash the required deltas locally, and downgrade using those local deltas upon request, I'd be a very happy camper.

lzma compression on official isos vs Deltaisos

I tried using the default xz compression (level 6 according to the man
page) on Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso, and reduced it to 96.66% of the
original size, a savings of about 100 MB. Uncompressing took about 2
minutes. (Level 9 compression might do slightly better, but would have
taken much longer to run the test.)

I tried the same thing on a deltaiso, and it actually got slightly
bigger, so that's out. But deltaisos have the advantage that they use
delta compression relative to a similar ISO, so normally they should be
much smaller.

lzma compression on official isos vs Deltaisos

Starting with Fedora 12, RPM packages are compressed using XZ instead of
gzip. As a result, the F12 ISOs are smaller:

F11 DVD sizes (bytes):
i386: 3683829760
ppc: 4606894080
x86_64: 4268124160

F12 DVD sizes (bytes):
i386: 3204427776
ppc: 3738935296
x86_64: 3537600512

See

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XZRpmPayloads

lzma compression on official isos vs Deltaisos

Dear fellow users,

I want to pose a quick questions. I know Mr. A Robatino posts deltaisos regularly which amounts to a certain amount of savings when one downloads a deltaiso. Although I have never downloaded one, I ask if one can save more bandwidth if we use lzma compression. I ask this question because TeXLive2009 comes in a iso.xz format which is lzma compression and saves some bandwidth.

UID mapping for NFS

I have a few systems on site which have common users installed with "wrong" UID
values from the rest of the machines, and particularly those installed from a
"live" CD which created one or more odd IDs when "install to disk" was used.

I remember using "UID mapping tables" to cause an NFS access from "joe" on the
client to use the UID of "joe" in the request sent to the NFS server. I can't
recall if that was in Linux, or some other OS, I was supporting Xenix, AIX,
Solaris, SunOS, and HP-UX at the time.

sort question

Hi

I have file as below

192.168.0.4 switch
192.168.0.47 server
192.168.0.43 printer
192.168.0.218 fax
192.168.0.205 monitor

How can I use sort to

192.168.0.4 switch
192.168.0.43 printer
192.168.0.47 server

Thank you

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Firefox plugins

Fedora 12 x86_64
I've being trying to get 'about:plugins' to recognize these .so files
libflashplayer.so nphelix.so nphelix.xpt nppdf.so, I copied them from
.mozilla/plugins to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins,other .so's files are
recognized.
what am I doing wrong

Orphaned taglib

I've orphaned "taglib" in response to the hostilities found in the
FESCo meeting log. Most likely Rex Dieter will pick it up, but I want
to let the list know as there are other dependencies on it.

Bug 549051 - package config file not installed (.pc)

I need help here too. The problem ist here the cmake don´t compile the
.pc file (pkgconfig file)
And upstream don´t will fix that :(.
I have talked about this with cwickert and he have said it is patchable
but he don´t have the time to make it.
Can any other please help me?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549051

Meeting summary/minutes for 2010-03-09 FESCo meeting

===================================
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-03-09)
===================================

Meeting started by nirik at 20:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-09/fesco.2010-03...
.

Meeting summary
* #314 Wordpress bundles libraries (nirik, 20:03:59)
* AGREED: wordpress should unbundle libraries that are upstream
identical. Can bundle 3 heavily modified php files. (nirik,
20:11:32)

* Daylight savings time.

F13 Alpha - Zarafa

All,

I'm curious why Fedora chose to include Zarafa as opposed to other (mostly) opensource groupware solutions?

Ones that come to mind: Scalix, Open-Exchange, Zimbra.

Thanks,
Brian

Fedora 12 installing

I downloaded the disc image and burned it in a DVD, then i booted Fedora,
but the screen turns dark and the dvd stops, should i download the fedora
image and burn it again?? or what else should i do??

Unreadable external LCD after upgrade to 2.6.32

Hey all. I've got a Dell Latitude E1505 running Fedora F12. I just updated
to 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686 today and as soon as I rebooted my external LCD was
unreadable. It had wavy vertical lines all over it and appeared to have
less than the full vertical resolution. The laptop LCD looked fine.

After checking the cable, power-cycling the monitor and reseting its
settings, and rebooting a few times didn't help, I booted back
into 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686 and all was well again.

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Need help with this FTBFS fife bug

Need help with this FTBFS fife bug. It don´t find boost for compiling.
But with F-13 ist works not in devel (F-14)

Can anyone please help to find out why please?

fc12 create initramfs contaning twofish kernel module

Hello,

I just installed fc12 on an existing Twofish-encrypted LVM containing /home
and / as logical volumes. The installation went well, but the system won't
start because the initramfs misses module 'twofish-common'.

How can I add the missing module to the initramfs? I was not able to find a
working HowTo for dracut.

Update policies: What about *regular* updates?

We are talking a lot about update policies recently. While I do (mostly)
agree with those who suggested a more conservative approach, I wonder
what will then happen to packages that actually *need* regular updates.
Let me give you two examples:
1. openal-soft: Is under steady development and improves a lot.
From time to time, I guess once a month, the maintainer pushes
an update. Usually this updates fixes at least one bz issue, so
I don't think it should be a problem with the new policy. I just
want to make sure.
2.

Nouveau ??

FC12/KDE-4.4

Where is the Compatibility list for Nvidia cards in Nouveau ?

Updates proposal - alternative draft 1

Hi,

Since it is the fav season for proposals apparently, let me throw in my
Fedora/hat in the ring too. This only applies to updates to general
releases.

For critical path packages
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages) :

* Must go through updates-testing repository
* Only major bug fixes and security fixes.
* Must go through updates testing repository even for security fixes
Rationale: Expedited security fixes have caused some serious regressions
in the past (D-Bus, Bind, Thunderbird updates etc).

Converting SVG to PDF

Hello,

Is there a free SVG to PDF converter available that actually works?

Inkscape produces PDF files of extremely large size and extremely
bad quality. Batik introduces artefacts (e.g. a huge black rectangle
in the middle of the graphic, labels have shifted, corners rendered
incorrectly).

Thanks!

Take care
Oliver

Tethering iPhone

I have tethering enabled on my iPhone 3GS and it works fine with MacOS and
WinXP, both of which required virtually no setup. Has anyone done this
recently on Fedora 12?

Either USB or Bluetooth connections to the phone would suit.

TIA

poc

QA's Package update policy proposal

Hello,

I have been (together with the QA team) working on a 'Package
update policy' proposal. Because Matthew Garrett yesterday
presented his own proposal regarding this topic, we decided
to also present our proposal, albeit still unfinished.

The proposal is here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kparal/Proposal:Package_update_policy

I would like to stress that it is still in development and
heavily discussed (see Discussion page). The terminology
may not be correct, because I'm not a native speaker.

KDE-SIG meeting report (10/2010)

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed.

GNS3 installation

Dear All:

I want to install GNS3 on Fedora 12. Can anyone provide me the step by step
guidelines for this?

Regards
Arefin

grub and serial

Hello,
I am trying to enable serial console by editing GRUB boot loader.
What I want is to be able to view in the boot messages of a machine A
which is connected with a serial cable to machine B.

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Announcing the release of Fedora 13 Alpha!!

The Fedora 13 "Goddard" Alpha release is available! What's next for the
free operating system that shows off the best new technology of
tomorrow? You can see the future now at:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease?anF13a

== What is the Alpha release? ==

The Alpha release contains all the features of Fedora 13 in a form that
anyone can help test. This testing, guided by the Fedora QA team, helps
us target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta
release available. A Beta release is code-complete, and bears a very
strong resemblance to the third and final release.

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 13 Alpha!!

The Fedora 13 "Goddard" Alpha release is available! What's next for the
free operating system that shows off the best new technology of
tomorrow? You can see the future now at:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease?anF13a

== What is the Alpha release? ==

The Alpha release contains all the features of Fedora 13 in a form that
anyone can help test. This testing, guided by the Fedora QA team, helps
us target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta
release available. A Beta release is code-complete, and bears a very
strong resemblance to the third and final release.

iptables config problem in Fedora 11

Dear All,

When running the following function ( they are good for working in FC9 ) :
modprobe ip_tables
modprobe ip_nat_ftp
modprobe ip_conntrack
modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp

error output :
[]# modprobe ip_tables
WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files
belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.
[]# modprobe ip_nat_ftp
WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files
belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[]# modprobe ip_conntrack
WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files
belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
FATAL:

X.org on F13 Alpha and monitor setup

Today I wanted to give F13 Alpha a test and installed it. The
installation went fine but I do not get a proper screen resolution
setup. The basic setup was done via system-config-display, I only added
a modeline. But it seems to me that the modeline is ignored. Is this a
new behavior because of kernel based mode setting or is this a bug and I
should file a report? At the moment the screen resolution is 1024x768
but I expected 1280x1024. Can someone confirm this behavior?

I'm wondering because before F10 was installed, and I even did not need
to setup a modeline.

sudo config problem

Dear All,

Mine is Fedora 11...

[root]# rpm -qa | grep "sudo"
sudo-1.7.2p5-1.fc11.x86_64
[root]#

After config the sudo, then there is some of error :
[root@ ~]# visudo
visudo: Warning: unused User_Alias ADMINS
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd_Alias DELEGATING
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd_Alias DRIVERS
visudo: Warning: unused Host_Alias FILESERVERS
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd_Alias LOCATE
visudo: Warning: unused Host_Alias MAILSERVERS
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd_Alias NETWORKING
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd_Alias PROCESSES
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd_Alias SERVICES
visudo: Warning: unused Cmnd

fluxbox madness after latest updates

help! yesterday night I applied the available updates (list below),
rebooted the machine and my fluxbox went nuts.

Every second time when a new window opens the system stalls. The
interface becomes totally unresponsive. No reaction to mouse clicks,
hotkey combinations don't work, nothing helps. Only when I switch to
console and kill the latest (only latest) started application I'm back
to normal. Looks like all the clicks and keypresses are buffered during
the system is unresponsive, and they get executed all at once.

Orpahning some packages

Orphaning couple of packages:

- JSDoc (upstream has moved to competing project
http://code.google.com/p/jsdoc-toolkit/, so unless somebody needs this
package, I think it is ready for retiring from Fedora completely)
- python-urllib2_kerberos -- unsuccessful attempt to use this, lost any
interest in the package just a day after packaging it.

Both packages have released ownership, who wants to tenderly love them
so I don't have to coldly left them in the blizzard?

Matěj

start kmail w/out akonadi

Hi
is there any way to start kmail without akonadi/nepomuk?
I kanow that they are very useful, but i prefer to gain acecss to mai
mail without indexing that not access at all

tia

Maurizio

Gnome login failure with latest kernel

Hello all,
My desktop machine does not log in under gnome using 2.6.32
kernel. No error in /var/log/messages or Xorg.o , just a complete hang
I need to reboot.
The previous 2.6.31 kernel is fine.

I can log in level 3, but with graphics mode, I get to type in username
and password and a few seconds later it freezes.

Any ideas?
Bill

Suspend fails on Dell with 2.6.32

Hello all,
Suspend was working well on a Dell E6400 until 2.6.32

Now the I915 driver for the 'Intel Mobile 4 series integrated graphics'
produces errors like:

Mar 9 09:39:49 hepntl141 kernel: render error detected, EIR: 0x00000000
Mar 9 09:39:56 hepntl141 kernel: [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR*
Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung
Mar 9 09:39:56 hepntl141 kernel: render error detected, EIR: 0x00000000
Mar 9 09:39:56 hepntl141 kernel: [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR*
i915_do_wait_request returns -5 (awaiting 293412 at 293313)

and logs me off.

kmail stopped to work

Sorry to open a new thread, but i have not access to my mail :( and i
cannot continue this thread.
I am using webmail to write thsi message.
I have F11 and i have already enabled Nempomuk on

System Setting/Advanced/Desktop Search

some days ago, but Nepomuk keeps to complain always as ususal.

This morning kmail stopped, i restarted it but on notify icon does
apperas a message that roughly says: i cannot find mysql backend
database 'redland' and Nepomuk wil not started; for security reasons
and than it is impossible to read as another notify message cover this.

Contextually, if thsi

[Test-Announce] Bugzappers Meeting Agenda for 2010-03-09

Additions or corrections to the agenda? Reply to this email.

= Agenda =

* follow ups from last meeting

* your item here! (let us know before the meeting)

* open floor

Please do come out for the meeting - it'd be great to see more faces,
and we don't bite, we promise! It's a great opportunity to raise any
issues you've come across while bugzapping, or ask any questions you
might have.

webcam for linux

hi all,

i am using fedora 12 ... in my dell laptop..... i want to enable my web
cam ...

PROPOSAL: Fedora user survey

Folks,

I will propose this to FESCo through their normal channels.

My proposal is that we create a "Fedora User Survey" and create a link
on the fp.o website with a few very simple questions. One of those
questions would be what users think about the current update policy,
using plain (and as non-bias as possible) language to explain.

This isn't an attempt to undermine FESCo, but you have to remember that
users don't typically directly vote for FESCo or otherwise get involved
in big decisions like this that will affect them.

Re: Update question: some user data

fedora for the fact that it is >>leading the way with the newer software and
that it has constant updates. (ie >>freedom,friends,features,first!) this
argument that most fedora users want a more stable system is not >>what the
fedora users i came across are after. tbh i think this whole identity crisis
is blown of of all >>proportion, you'd think that something like this would
have come with the fedora10 dbus probs or the >>'stabilisation cannot be
detected' not now with a little kde popup window :0

+1 for these comments.

Plan for tomorrow's (2010-03-09) FESCo meeting

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 20:00UTC (3pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.

Followups:

#314 Wordpress bundles libraries

New Business:

- Daylight savings time. Move meeting time or keep the same?
- #349 comps in git - notting
- Proposed Updates Policy Change - mjg59
- Fedora Engineering Services Tickets/Updates.

Proposed udpates policy change

This is the policy that I expect to be discussed during the Fesco
meeting tomorrow.

ssh to my computer behind NAT

Dear list!
I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my
ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and
actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better
solution? Is there a possibility of not using any computer at the
middle to connect to my home system from the outside world? Can I
connect to it directly using some magic setup? Any thoughts?

How to install software without root password (PolicyKit?)

Hi, Fedora 12 was planned to have installation of packages without
users needing to enter root password.

How do I enable this feature via PolicyKit?

I read this article:
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/polkit-and-package-kit-and-chang...
but even after doing that it is still the same and "yum install
package" asks for root password.

Cheers!

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Relating to ad hoc wireless network

Hello all,
I would like to know about how to create ad hoc wireless
network on the Internet-connected computer in fedora-12.And How to add other
computers to this network.Please help me.

F13 Release Slogan - Rock it.

For the 13th Release of Fedora, "Goddard," the Fedora Marketing team
ran an open, community based process of slogan submissions, found at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP.

libedit: transferring ownership

I would like to transfer ownership of the libedit package to Kamil
Dudka (kdudka). I am a bit wary of PackageDB transferring not letting
me select the new owner. Could someone please take care of it or
advise what I need to do about this?

I do not want to remain as a co-maintainer.

Thanks,
Debarshi

Re: Snort alternative

Have you tried to build the app from source code? Its worth trying if you really need that app on that distro. And its a good skill to have.
------Original Message------
From: Luc MAIGNAN
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To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
ReplyTo: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Snort alternative
Sent: 8 Mar 2010 5:42 PM

Hi,

I'm looking for an IP logger (I knew 'ippl' but it doesn't seem to be
integrated to fedora packages) or a intrusion detector (snort).

Upcoming Fedora 13 Schedule

Start End Name
Thu 04-Mar Tue 09-Mar Stage & Sync Alpha to Mirrors
Tue 09-Mar Tue 09-Mar Alpha Public Availability
Tue 09-Mar Tue 23-Mar Alpha Testing
Fri 12-Mar Fri 12-Mar Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #1
Tue 16-Mar Tue 16-Mar Software: Start Rebuild all translated packages
Tue 16-Mar Tue 23-Mar Software: Rebuild all translated packages
Wed 17-Mar Thu 18-Mar Create Beta Test Compose (TC)
Thu 18-Mar Wed 24-Mar Test Beta 'Test Compose'
Fri 19-Mar Fri 19-Mar Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #2
Tue 23-Mar Tue 23-Mar End of Alpha Testing

Snort alternative

Hi,

I'm looking for an IP logger (I knew 'ippl' but it doesn't seem to be
integrated to fedora packages) or a intrusion detector (snort). I've
installed snort but I've seen on the snort's website that I have to paid
to get snort rules !!!

What is the best tool to do both actions ?

Thanks for any help

F12: gparted & mtab

Has anyone seen the following entries in /etc/mtab:

/etc/pki/dnssec-keys /var/named/chroot/etc/pki/dnssec-keys none rw,bind 0 0
/etc/rndc.key /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key none rw,bind 0 0
/usr/lib/bind /var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind none rw,bind 0 0

These entries was discovered when I was using gparted
to view the partitions of my drives and I noticed for my
F12 drive/partition, gparted was showing the following
under the 'Mount Point' column:

/, /var/named/chroot/etc/pki/dnssec-key,
/var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key,
/var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind

It used to show only '/' before, b

FC12 livecd-iso-to-disk woes - now suicidal

Well, I've so far tried all the suggestions (except bugzilla),
and *nothing* works.

Managing spec files

Hi All,

I am looking at building a fedora package. I have been over guidelines
and taken a look at the build system. What I am not clear on is how I
maintain spec files for different distributions i.e., F12, F11, F10, or
even EPEL.

Do I have to branch and maintain each spec file separately or is there a
better way? Are there any tools that abstract the commonality? Do
people try to write spec files that work on any distro with conditionals?

Thanks for any wise words,

Matt.

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request

please.......
don,t send me further any mail..........

What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

So I submitted a rebuild for libguestfs in F-13 (just now). This
was built against:

plymouth-core-libs 0.8.0-0.20100114.2.fc13

But the version of plymouth that I get when I install plymouth from
F-13 updates-testing on a local machine (after
'yum --enablerepo=\* clean all') is:

plymouth-core-libs 0.8.0-0.20100225.1.fc13

and neither of those versions is mentioned by Bodhi.

How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

My F-13 system produces the following output from yum list extras:
Extra Packages
glibc.i686 2.11.90-14
installed
glibc-common.i686 2.11.90-14
installed
glibc-devel.i686 2.11.90-14
@updates-testing
glibc-headers.i686 2.11.90-14
@updates-testing
gtksourceview2.i686 2.9.7-1.fc13
installed
nscd.i686 2.11.90-14
installed

The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have
been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the current version again.

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