RFC: Branch requests from non-maintainers


3 months ago, Miro opened releng ticket[0] raising question whether
non-maintainers (of some specific packages) being able to request

However, it never went anywhere outside of that ticket.

I'd like to ask people on this mailing list a few questions. Let's say
we have some theoretical package and it has only one maintainer in

* Should any other packager (not that maintainer) be able to request
new branches on that repo?
* Should provenpackager be able to do the same request?

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Re: RFC: Branch requests from non-maintainers

By Mat Booth at 12/02/2019 - 09:03

On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 12:56, Igor Gnatenko < ... at fedoraproject dot org>

Is there a problem with adding such other packagers as comaintainers if
they want to maintain such a branch?

For example: I am not at all interested in EPEL branches, but if someone
wants to maintain an EPEL branch of my package, I have absolutely no
problem with adding them as a co-maintainer.

Re: RFC: Branch requests from non-maintainers

By Daniel P. Berrange at 12/02/2019 - 08:37

On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 01:55:55PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
IIUC, effectively "new branches" means "EPEL branches" since normal
Fedora branches are all created automatically.

So to rephrase this....

* Should someone who is not the maintainer be able to declare
that the maintainer must accept EPEL branches & the extra
work that involves thereafter.

AFAIK, there's no requirement that Fedora package maintainers have
to provide EPEL branches, its upto each maintainer if they want that

Personally I don't wish to maintain EPEL branches for any package I'm
maintaining in Fedora, since it is an additional timesink I don't need.
I'm more than happy for people to volunteer as co-maintainers and then
take care of EPEL branches though & thus I've added co-maintainers on
many occassions for this reason.

Even if the request to create the branch by a non-maintainer was
honoured, it wouldn't result in any builds being done on that branch,
nor any bugs being triaged thereafter.

So if the maintainer doesn't want to maintain the EPEL branches, the
only long term viable option is to find willing co-maintainers to join,
who can then request the branch & do builds, triage bugs, etc.

IOW, I struggle to see a reason to allow someone who is a not a
(co-)maintainer to request new branches in general. I'm not convinced
that provenpackagers should be able to do this either, unless they
want to volunteer to be the explicitly co-maintainer too, in which
case the question doesn't arise.


Re: RFC: Branch requests from non-maintainers

By =?UTF-8?B?TWlyb... at 12/02/2019 - 08:12

On 02. 12. 19 13:55, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
IMHO Yes, but there are a few preconditions:

When Anna requests an epel8 branch on "my" package:

- she maintains it, not me.
- I want to get notified to coordinate with her (in case I actually want to
maintain it in epel8).

So until we have branch ownership and proper notifications, no.

Only if they are becoming regular maintainers. Provenpackagers requesting
branches of packages where they are not maintainers is the worst combination. As
said relatively recently somewhere else on this mailing list, they will create
it, but nobody will actually maintain it. They will not be even notified on new
bugzillas until they explicitly set that up somehow.