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Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-08-27)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

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Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda">https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda</a>

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =

Allow turning on opt-in gating
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1966" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1966">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1966</a>
DECISION (+6, 0, -0)

= Followups =

#topic #1935 [Security] Remove packages which has a consistent bad security record from the distribution
.fesco 1935
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935</a>

#topic #1967 Fedora 29 incomplete changes
.fesco 1967
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967</a>

= New business =

#topic #1970 Action needed: Orphan packages will be retired if they remain orphaned for six weeks
.fesco 1970
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970</a>

= Open Floor =

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue. The report of the agenda items can be found at
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda">https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda</a>

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that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

Comments

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-08-27)

By Petr Sabata at 08/27/2018 - 12:58

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#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2018-08-27)
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Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available
at
<a href="https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-08-27/fesco.2018-08-27-15.00.log.html" title="https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-08-27/fesco.2018-08-27-15.00.log.html">https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-08-27/fesco.2018...</a>
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Meeting summary
* #1970 Action needed: Orphan packages will be retired if they remain
orphaned for six weeks (contyk, 15:02:16)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970</a> (contyk, 15:02:23)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/6895" title="https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/6895">https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/6895</a> is a PR to update
th e script, the problem there was that previously orphan status was
per branch, now it is per package (tyll, 15:17:10)
* <a href="https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/6895" title="https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/6895">https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/6895</a> (zbyszek, 15:21:00)
* AGREED: The plan is: 1. contact factory 2 to see if they want to
finish the script, 2. once the script is ready, send info to all
co-maintainers and fedora-devel, 3. after a week reassign to one
co-maintainer, if no co-maintainers, retire (+6, 0, 0) (contyk,
15:46:58)

* #1935 [Security] Remove packages which has a consistent bad security
record from the distribution (contyk, 15:48:36)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935</a> (contyk, 15:48:42)
* AGREED: If a CRITICAL or IMPORTANT security issue is currently open
against a package, or a security issue of lower severity has been
open for at least 6 months, four weeks before the branch point a
procedure similar to long-standing FTBFS will be triggered
immediately, with 8 weeks of weekly notifications to maintainers and
subsequent orphaning and then subsequent removal from distribution.
This (contyk, 15:59:52)
* AGREED: applies to all packages, not just leaf. (+6, 0, -0)
(contyk, 16:00:25)

* #1967 Fedora 29 incomplete changes (contyk, 16:00:40)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967</a> (contyk, 16:00:48)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/631" title="https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/631">https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/631</a> (bowlofeggs,
16:02:52)
* LINK: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598405" title="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598405">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598405</a>
(bowlofeggs, 16:03:10)
* ACTION: bowlofeggs will contact mclassen to get an update
(bowlofeggs, 16:04:10)
* LINK:
<a href="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ ... at lists dot fedoraproject.org/thread/V4AMRMWOWIAPZFQTLUBWNDD3FU5OQOZX/" title="https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ ... at lists dot fedoraproject.org/thread/V4AMRMWOWIAPZFQTLUBWNDD3FU5OQOZX/">https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ ... at lists dot fedor...</a>
(bcotton, 16:12:01)
* AGREED: "Rename Atomic Workstation to Silverblue": let folks work on
it today, if not done in time for freeze, they can ask for an
exception or move to f30. (+7, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:32:34)
* LINK:
<a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=POST&amp;classification=Fedora&amp;component=Changes%20Tracking&amp;list_id=9313935&amp;product=Fedora&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;version=29" title="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=POST&amp;classification=Fedora&amp;component=Changes%20Tracking&amp;list_id=9313935&amp;product=Fedora&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;version=29">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGN...</a>
(nirik, 16:33:52)
* AGREED: "update festival to 2.5": Defer to F30 unless implemented by
F29 devel freeze (+6, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:49:18)
* ACTION: bowlofeggs will ask for an update from the change owner
(bowlofeggs, 16:50:34)
* AGREED: cloud image updates: defer and check next week, it's unclear
to me what would need to be done before beta as this change deals
with post GA content (+7, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:51:37)

* Next week's chair (contyk, 16:52:03)
* Due to holidays, the next meeting will be on September 10 (contyk,
16:59:39)
* ACTION: bowlofeggs will chair the next meeting (contyk, 16:59:56)

* Open Floor (contyk, 17:00:03)

Meeting ended at 17:02:34 UTC.

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