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Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-12-03)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

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Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda">https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda</a>

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket (or the last meeting) =
F30 System-Wide Change: The GNU C Library version 2.29
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2014" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2014">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2014</a>
ACCEPTED (+6, 0, -0)

too strict rules for branches deletion alongside with norules for theirs creations
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013</a>
ACCEPTED (+7, 0, -0)

Preclusion of Firefox automatic download of OpenH264 (#1359) may have been violated at some point
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2015" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2015">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2015</a>
CLOSED (+6, 0, -0)

= Followups =

#topic F29 – rebase of dnf, libdnf, dnf-plugins-core, dnf-plugins-extras
.fesco 2016
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2016" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2016">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2016</a>

#topic Enabling pm_request in fedoraproject koji
.fesco 2004
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2004" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2004">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2004</a>

#topic Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement
.fesco 2003
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003</a>

#topic The FTBFS cleanup policy is not happening
.fesco 1973
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973</a>

#topic Action needed: Orphan packages will be retired if they remain orphaned for six weeks
.fesco 1970
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970</a>

= New business =

Nothing.

= Open Floor =

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue. The report of the agenda items can be found at
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda">https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda</a>

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco" title="https://pagure.io/fesco">https://pagure.io/fesco</a>, e-mail me directly, or bring it
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

Comments

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-12-03)

By Petr Sabata at 12/03/2018 - 18:28

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#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2018-12-03)
=====================================

Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available
at
<a href="https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-12-03/fesco.2018-12-03-15.00.log.html" title="https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-12-03/fesco.2018-12-03-15.00.log.html">https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-12-03/fesco.2018...</a>
.

Meeting summary
* F29 – rebase of dnf, libdnf, dnf-plugins-core, dnf-plugins-extras
(contyk, 15:03:34)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2016" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2016">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2016</a> (contyk, 15:03:40)
* AGREED: FESCo approves of the DNF stack rebase (+7, 1, -0) (contyk,
15:10:27)

* Enabling pm_request in fedoraproject koji (contyk, 15:10:43)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2004" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2004">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2004</a> (contyk, 15:10:49)
* We're waiting for another concrete proposal to resolve this
(contyk, 15:12:28)

* Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement (contyk, 15:12:36)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003</a> (contyk, 15:12:43)
* There two major points that need to be addressed regarding Ursa
Major. #1 Make it painless for package maintainers and releng to
maintain the UM config, and #2 Make it reasonably easy for non-koji
users to consume our buildroot content (contyk, 16:07:21)
* We will discuss these topics in the ticket (contyk, 16:07:37)

* The FTBFS cleanup policy is not happening (contyk, 16:07:58)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973</a> (contyk, 16:08:07)
* It *is* happening! (contyk, 16:08:56)

* Action needed: Orphan packages will be retired if they remain orphaned
for six weeks (contyk, 16:09:00)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970</a> (contyk, 16:09:07)
* Also ongoing (contyk, 16:10:36)

*
<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuPG2_as_default_GPG_implementation" title="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuPG2_as_default_GPG_implementation">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuPG2_as_default_GPG_implementation</a>
(contyk, 16:10:53)
* AGREED: GnuPG2 as the default GPG implementation approved (+7, 0,
-0) (contyk, 16:17:10)

* Next week's chair (contyk, 16:17:40)
* ACTION: zbyszek will chair the next meeting (contyk, 16:18:49)

* Open Floor (contyk, 16:19:00)
* No FESCo meetings on Dec 24 & Dec 31 (contyk, 16:21:04)

Meeting ended at 16:22:24 UTC.

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Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-12-03)

By Igor Gnatenko at 12/03/2018 - 06:43

Any idea why
<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuPG2_as_default_GPG_implementation" title="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuPG2_as_default_GPG_implementation">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuPG2_as_default_GPG_implementation</a>
still doesn't have FESCo ticket? It's been a week since it was sent to ML.

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-12-03)

By Petr Sabata at 12/03/2018 - 08:30

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 11:43:33AM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
Nope but I wanted to put it on the agenda anyway but apparently forgot.

The last week's agreement was to wait another week to discuss any open
questions.

P

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-12-03)

By Zbigniew =?utf-... at 12/03/2018 - 08:27

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 11:43:33AM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
It's a week today, but FPM is based in US, and it's currently either
7:30 or 4:30 am.

Zbyszek