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Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2019-02-18)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

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Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda">https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda</a>

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =

F30 Change: Vagrant 2.2
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2085" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2085">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2085</a>
APPROVED (+5, 0, -0)

F30 Change: Improved Grub Menu
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2079" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2079">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2079</a>
APPROVED (+5, 0, -0)

F30 Change: LXQt 0.14.0
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2076" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2076">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2076</a>
APPROVED (+6, 0, -0)

F30 Change: GHC 8.4
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2075" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2075">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2075</a>
APPROVED (+5, 0, -0)

F30 Change: Fish 3.0
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2073" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2073">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2073</a>
APPROVED (+6, 0, -0)

= Followups =

#topic #1974 Problematic blocker for F29: dnf 'offline' module tracking
.fesco 1974
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974</a>

#topic #2003 Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement
.fesco 2003
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003</a>

#opitc #2078 F30 Change: MongoDB removal
.fesco 2078
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2078" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2078">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2078</a>

= New business =

#topic #2046 Change process: Releng impact tickets are tedious and possibly contribute to overwhelm releng
.fesco 2046
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2046" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2046">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2046</a>

#topic #2067 tss2 package ownership
.fesco 2067
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2067" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2067">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2067</a>

#topic #2071 F30 Change: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome
.fesco 2071
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2071" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2071">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2071</a>

#topic #2072 Unable to implement FESCO policy decision! ( <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935</a>)
.fesco 2072
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2072" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2072">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2072</a>

#topic #2077 F30 Change: SWID tag enablement
.fesco 2077
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2077" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2077">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2077</a>

#topic #2088 Late F30 Change – “dnf --best” as default behavior
.fesco 2088
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088</a>

#topic #2084 "Fedora packaging service" kickoff
.fesco 2084
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2084" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2084">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2084</a>

= Open Floor =

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue. The report of the agenda items can be found at
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda">https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda</a>

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco" title="https://pagure.io/fesco">https://pagure.io/fesco</a>, e-mail me directly, or bring it
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

Comments

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2019-02-18)

By Petr Sabata at 02/18/2019 - 17:55

=====================================
#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2019-02-18)
=====================================

Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available
at
<a href="https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-02-18/fesco.2019-02-18-15.00.log.html" title="https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-02-18/fesco.2019-02-18-15.00.log.html">https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-02-18/fesco.2019...</a>

Meeting summary
* #1974 Problematic blocker for F29: dnf 'offline' module tracking
(contyk, 15:02:32)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974</a> (contyk, 15:02:36)
* AGREED: As we're fairly sure this wouldn't be fixed in time for F30,
we're moving this to F31. Modularity & DNF folks with prepare a
specific implementation plan and will update the ticket (+6, 0, -1)
(contyk, 15:20:34)

* #2003 Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement (contyk, 15:20:56)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003</a> (contyk, 15:21:00)
* AGREED: contyk will prepare & share a proposal solving the buildroot
problem without Ursa Major. We will revisit next week. (+7, 0, -0)
(contyk, 15:48:53)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2078" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2078">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2078</a> (contyk, 15:49:12)
* AGREED: F30 Change: MongoDB removal is approved. (+6, 0, -0)
(contyk, 15:59:17)

* #2046 Change process: Releng impact tickets are tedious and possibly
contribute to (contyk, 15:59:27)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2046" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2046">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2046</a> (contyk, 15:59:34)
* AGREED: System wide changes remain the same for now. For self
contained changes if the proposal owner(s) think releng involvement
is needed, they open a ticket, but it is not mandatory, Anyone who
feels releng should be notified of and discuss the change can file a
releng ticket anytime. (+8, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:04:36)

* #2067 tss2 package ownership (contyk, 16:04:49)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2067" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2067">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2067</a> (contyk, 16:04:54)
* LINK:
<a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers?rd=PackageMaintainers/Policy/NonResponsiveMaintainers#Notes_for_invalid_email_addresses" title="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers?rd=PackageMaintainers/Policy/NonResponsiveMaintainers#Notes_for_invalid_email_addresses">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintain...</a>
(nirik, 16:06:51)
* AGREED: Agreed to add snits as a comaintainer for tss2 (+7, 0, -0)
(contyk, 16:15:49)

* #2071 F30 Change: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome (contyk,
16:16:03)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2071" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2071">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2071</a> (contyk, 16:16:08)
* AGREED: F30 Change: Firefox Wayland By Default On Gnome is approved
but might get reverted if the glitches are not fixed in time for F30
final (+8, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:26:53)

* #2072 Unable to implement FESCO policy decision! (
<a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935</a>) (contyk, 16:27:30)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2072" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2072">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2072</a> (contyk, 16:27:34)
* LINK:
<a href="https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/releng/releng.2019-02-14-17.00.log.html" title="https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/releng/releng.2019-02-14-17.00.log.html">https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/releng/releng.2019-02-14-17....</a>
(nirik, 16:29:06)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2090" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2090">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2090</a> (tyll, 16:30:25)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2090" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2090">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2090</a> (mboddu, 16:30:30)
* huzaifas and releng will discuss the solution in #2090; FESCo will
revisit next week (contyk, 16:43:49)

* #2077 F30 Change: SWID tag enablement (contyk, 16:44:08)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2077" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2077">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2077</a> (contyk, 16:44:13)
* AGREED: F30 Change: SWID tag enablement approved (+9, 0, -0)
(contyk, 16:47:21)

* #2088 Late F30 Change – “dnf --best” as default behavior (contyk,
16:47:37)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088</a> (contyk, 16:47:41)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088#comment-553962" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088#comment-553962">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2088#comment-553962</a> (otaylor,
16:49:49)
* There are too many things to consider. We will discuss this in the
ticket for another week. (contyk, 17:02:34)

* #2084 "Fedora packaging service" kickoff (contyk, 17:03:35)
* LINK: <a href="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2084" title="https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2084">https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2084</a> (contyk, 17:03:40)
* ttomecek will share this on devel@, FESCo will continue discussing
in the ticket and will revisit in a week (contyk, 17:06:09)

* Next week's chair (contyk, 17:06:22)
* ACTION: zbyszek will chair next meeting (contyk, 17:06:57)

* Open Floor (contyk, 17:07:01)

Meeting ended at 17:08:18 UTC.

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